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		<title>Opening A Dialogue: Quantification and Certification</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A while back, I read this post by Olivier Blanchard which focused on ISMA, an organization said to certify social media consultants. That post inspired a semi-related post here which briefly touched on the certification aspect and on the company in question itself, but which was really overall more about the ethics of sponsorship and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://magnitudemedia.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/abacus.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1568" style="margin: 5px;" title="Abacus Measurement Quantify" src="http://magnitudemedia.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/abacus-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>A while back, I read this post by <a href="http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com/2009/12/04/thanks-but-no-thanks-enough-with-the-nonsense-already/">Olivier Blanchard</a> which focused on ISMA, an organization said to certify social media consultants. That post inspired <a href="http://magnitudemedia.net/2010/01/03/at-what-point-ethics/">a semi-related post here</a> which briefly touched on the certification aspect and on the company in question itself, but which was really overall more about the ethics of sponsorship and the ethics of validation by association.  The response to that post from the folks at ISMA were not encouraging, and certainly didn&#8217;t do much to change my (admittedly low) opinion.</p>
<p>As outlined over on the Epiphanies blog, <a href="http://twitter.com/allenvoivod">Allen Voivod</a> and I had an interesting <a href="http://www.epiphaniesinc.com/blog/2010/03/05/the-path-to-social-media-certification/">conversation recently about ISMA</a> and certification in general. Some of the things that made my conversation with Allen different than the knee-jerk responses that had been given in the past were perspective and a much more big picture conversation. Big picture conversations open up dialogue, and dialogue is how you effect change.</p>
<p>The perspective of someone who is not a part of ISMA, but who chose the course, was a valuable one to hear. It told me that while I don&#8217;t see this field as something ready for certification or even able to be certified yet, there is a significant subset of people out there who are not ready or able to think in such a dramatically new way, who are more comfortable with rules, regulations and guidelines and who feel a need for credentials that mirror traditional industries. I get that. This new and malleable adaptive media plane can seem scary, and is rife with underqualified people.</p>
<p>This is nowhere more evident than in the rise of full social media degrees or simple courses offered by colleges and universities, from Georgia to SNHU and UNH right here in NH. I think I&#8217;ll write a separate post next week on how to vet that professor or program to make sure the college is teaching best practices, but for now, we&#8217;ll just say that this rise in degree offerings showcases two things. One, that this field is here to stay (we as practitioners knew this, but the public is seeing the validity now). Two, that people really are clamoring for a better way to do due diligence and the tried and true degree method is one of the first places they turn, mentally.</p>
<p>The interesting thing to note about all of this is that when this new playing field is allowed to work in a thriving, rule-free environment, things sort themselves out. I don&#8217;t mean that in a kumbaya, &#8220;Twitter is Love&#8221; kind of way. I mean that people are smarter than we give them credit for, and that the online social world has an uncanny knack for sorting out the wheat from the chaf quickly and effectively (and publicly).</p>
<p>I can assure you, having a badge or certificate is not a guarantee that you won&#8217;t get scammed. Doing due diligence is the only way to choose who to ask for help. There are plenty of people sporting a &#8220;certification&#8221; that are fully unethical and underqualified (for what it is worth, I don&#8217;t think Allen and Lani are among those people). The same thing goes for lawyers, accountants, and many more professions, but you know all of this. I&#8217;ve talked about it before, both here and in person, and nearly everyone has at least one &#8220;I can&#8217;t believe I got suckered by&#8230;&#8221; story to tell.</p>
<p>One thing I admire about Allen and Lani is how they <em>approached this as an education</em>. New to the space, they went to as many sources as possible to learn as much as they could about this space that they wanted to work in. As evidenced by my continual integration of free and low cost learning opportunities for everyone (PodCamp NH, Social Media Breakfast NH, S•Cub3d Conference, Strong Women in Tech, the Pick My Brain Experiment, and many more) I am all about people who genuinely want to learn. While I&#8217;m somewhat disappointed that their quest for knowledge exposed them to some bad practices, if you look at the roster of places they sought knowledge and talk to their clients, they were able to get a level of balance through variety and it shows.</p>
<p>Has my opinion changed about the organization since that original post? No, if anything I think it may have solidified. But I like that Allen and I were able to open up a dialogue, and I&#8217;ll plan to continue going back and forth with him via blog post so we can keep the dialogue going and loop all of you into it as well. We can&#8217;t learn and grow and shape this space we&#8217;re in if we don&#8217;t listen to each other, after all.</p>
<p>Update: ISMA was forced to fold in Summer 2010.</p>
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		<title>At What Point Ethics?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So my attention was called to a post by one of my favorite thinkers in this space, Olivier Blanchard (aka The Brand Builder) about a fly by night certification scam (not the first, and I&#8217;m sure not the last to sucker people in) called International Social Media Association. I won&#8217;t even try to pull the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://magnitudemedia.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Calvin-And-Hobbes-Ethics.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1592" style="margin: 5px;" title="Calvin And Hobbes Do Ethics" src="http://magnitudemedia.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Calvin-And-Hobbes-Ethics-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>So my attention was called to a post by one of my favorite thinkers in this space, <a href="http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com/2009/12/04/thanks-but-no-thanks-enough-with-the-nonsense-already/#comment-5502">Olivier Blanchard</a> (aka<a href="http://twitter.com/brandbuilder"> The Brand Builder</a>) about a fly by night certification scam (not the first, and I&#8217;m sure not the last to sucker people in) called International Social Media Association. I won&#8217;t even try to pull the post and contents over here &#8211; it&#8217;s a goldmine of thought leadership from start to finish, in line and in comments. Go read the (long but worth it) <a href="http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com/2009/12/04/thanks-but-no-thanks-enough-with-the-nonsense-already/">post on ISMA</a> for yourself, then come back &#8211; we&#8217;ll wait.</p>
<p>Ok, are you back? Good. This post is not about ISMA. I&#8217;ve been disgusted by the whole concept of ISMA since I read Olivier&#8217;s post and realized &#8211; I <em>know</em> these people. These people are <em>in my state</em>, messing with people that others (myself, John Herman, Christine Major, Monika and Jay McGillicuddy, and more) have worked hard to teach social media <em>ethics</em> based on our time in the trenches, doing the work. I&#8217;m appalled, yes, but not just at the concept of ISMA and how it takes advantage of people &#8211; I&#8217;m also rather appalled at myself. After all, the ISMAs and others like them are going to do what they do &#8211; the beauty of PodCamps and breakfasts and meetings like NHMM are that people <em>can</em> take what they learn and use it to make something of their own out of it &#8211; we can only <em>hope</em> that the knowledge is used for things that are good.</p>
<p>See, the more I read Olivier&#8217;s post, the more the name ISMA and the names of the founders Mark and Mari nagged at my mind. I puzzled over it for a while, but in the end I&#8217;ve been busy with several companies and events this past year and I just couldn&#8217;t place why I was getting that prickly neck feeling. Then it came to me &#8211; one or both have attended the Social Media Breakfast NH I founded over the past months. This means they&#8217;ve fully been exposed to good, &#8220;do no harm&#8221; social media practices and chose to ignore them. Then the big realization hit &#8211; at PodCamp NH we were $400 away from being fully sponsored, and I was about to pay it out of pocket (after all, it&#8217;s my event and we&#8217;d raised $5600 in a week to keep it free, I was more than happy to pony up). Then Mark came over and said he wanted to be a last minute angel sponsor. I took the check, promoted the crap out of his very generous gesture during the weekend, wondered what his organization did, and then&#8230; got busy with PodCamp NH logistics and forgot all about looking into it.</p>
<p>How does this pertain to ethics, you wonder? Let me tell you &#8211; this pertains to <em>my</em> ethics. There are a lot of people out there doing social media bad instead of social media good. It&#8217;s become a caveat emptor world full of fauxrganizations like this one. It&#8217;s up to me, and other established and practicing consultants that have been doing this for a long time, to police the scammy people in our local areas and in our national space. If I was on the ball, I would have taken a moment on one of the many laptops around at PCNH and looked up the company I was taking a check from for my event. I would not have encouraged validation by association.</p>
<p>To that end, in keeping with my own ethics, I think I&#8217;m about to rethink the PodCamp finance model for 2010. I&#8217;m not sure just yet what will change &#8211; I sense a team meeting coming on earlier than expected so we can decide as a group what change will look like. All I know is, from here on in, I&#8217;ll be vetting the sponsors long before the events. I&#8217;ve already turned down a few panel appearances this year because I didn&#8217;t want to validate bad information by association, I&#8217;ll have to treat the rest of what I and my team do as far as event with the same rigor.</p>
<p>Update, March 3, 2010:</p>
<p>Recently it was called to my attention that someone I really, really like was an ISMA &#8220;founding member&#8221; (ISMA term). My initial reaction was one of blunt disappointment. I try very hard to hear both sides of everything, and since this is someone I think of as a really nice person (or people, actually, it&#8217;s a two person company) to boot, I talked to them on the phone extensively about ISMA, and, more specifically since they own their own company, about why they choose to try ISMA out (as well as other teaching tools, including some of my events and Hubspot&#8217;s Inbound Marketing University, plus other tools).</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t surprised at their reason, though they were not able to change my opinion about ISMA, the organization &#8211; like I said above, the people behind it seem nice enough, I can only comment on what I think of the ISMA practices. Perhaps what I like about the person I was having the phone conversation with is reflected in how many learning experiences they tried &#8211; with so much variety it seems to have tempered the influence of one misguided group and given them a base to be a better company, and knowing their personalities, I&#8217;m not surprised they wanted as much info from as many people and organizations as possible.</p>
<p>So, Allen, thanks for taking the time to explain your reasoning, as a separate company from ISMA, on why you saw some value in trying their program out, and thanks for understanding that while I still have to agree to disagree on the whole ISMA concept and execution, I like the more balanced overall thing you&#8217;re doing with your company in spite of that.</p>
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